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From: Ying-Hung Chen <ying_at_yingternet.com>
subject: development of SELinux
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:53:05 -0700
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Hi,

    I noticed that there is no more releases of SELinux since April, and also the mailinglist archive hasn't get updated on the NSA's SELinux website too. Since everthing seems to be on hold right now, I would be very interested to know what's going to happen for this project? are there anymore releases? or we are on our own?

Thanks,

-Ying

PS. yes, I know the emaillist are still active and archived. but why the main webside didn't even have the pointer to the archives too?

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From: Howard Holm <hdholm_at_epoch.ncsc.mil>
subject: Re: development of SELinux
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:51:48 -0400
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First, let me respond to what seems to be the main concern. Is the project on hold? The answer is that the project is still under active development. We regret that the website has not been the subject of frequent updates. As pointed out by Ying-Hung Chen the archives of the mailing list are available although not all on the website. The website does indeed point to the majordomo archives in the text on "SELinux List Archive Access" at <http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/list.html>.

We hope to update the website soon. Of course, the web-based mailing list archives will be updated then. One of the issues we've been wrestling with here is what work to present. The SELinux project has recently been focused on working with the linux-security-modules (LSM) project to integrate a set of module interfaces into the linux kernel which could be used by security projects such as SELinux. In doing this, work on porting SELinux to new kernel versions has suffered. We are contemplating releasing work-in-progress on the LSM-based SELinux, although it is less stable than the non-LSM SELinux code. We are also considering just how much effort we should extend in improvements to non-LSM SELinux vice putting all our effort into an LSM-based version.

We welcome input about what the community would like to see. Although I would ask that you keep in mind our research interests are our primary guide for decisions on our effort.

On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 12:53:05PM -0700, Ying-Hung Chen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that there is no more releases of SELinux since April, and
> also the mailinglist archive hasn't get updated on the NSA's SELinux website
> too. Since everthing seems to be on hold right now, I would be very
> interested to know what's going to happen for this project? are there
> anymore releases? or we are on our own?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Ying
>
> PS. yes, I know the emaillist are still active and archived. but why the
> main webside didn't even have the pointer to the archives too?

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From: James Morris <jmorris_at_intercode.com.au>
subject: Re: development of SELinux
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:20:55 +1000 (EST)
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Howard Holm wrote:

>
> We welcome input about what the community would like to see. Although I
> would ask that you keep in mind our research interests are our primary
> guide for decisions on our effort.
>

Hi Howard,

I would be keen to see any existing patches for networking applications such as rlogin and ftp, as well as more examples of policy configuration for network services. This is to try and understand how networking policy is envisaged and expressed under Flask.

Also, a technical report is cited in Ajaya's networking paper titled "A Network Access Control Model for Flask" by Stephen S. Is this report available to the public?

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From: Stephen Smalley <sds_at_tislabs.com>
subject: Re: development of SELinux
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:57:33 -0400 (EDT)
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, James Morris wrote:

> Also, a technical report is cited in Ajaya's networking paper titled "A
> Network Access Control Model for Flask" by Stephen S. Is this report
> available to the public?

It wasn't really a technical report. I analyzed the network protocol implementation and wrote a set of rough notes that defined the object classes, permissions, and control requirements for it. Ajay used those notes as the basis of his work. You'll find a more up-to-date description of the same material in the Networking section of the SELinux kernel document
(http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/slinux-abs.html).

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From: Keith <neomuzic_at_yahoo.com>
subject: Re: development of SELinux
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:06:45 -0700 (PDT)
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Is there an announcement only list?

  • Stephen Smalley <sds@tislabs.com> wrote:
    >
    > On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, James Morris wrote:
    >
    > > Also, a technical report is cited in Ajaya's
    > networking paper titled "A
    > > Network Access Control Model for Flask" by Stephen
    > S. Is this report
    > > available to the public?
    >
    > It wasn't really a technical report. I analyzed the
    > network protocol
    > implementation and wrote a set of rough notes that
    > defined the
    > object classes, permissions, and control
    > requirements for it.
    > Ajay used those notes as the basis of his work.
    > You'll find a more
    > up-to-date description of the same material in the
    > Networking section
    > of the SELinux kernel document
    > (http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/slinux-abs.html).
    >
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    > ssmalley@nai.com
    >
    >
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